is an incredibly insightful article about how some Veterans treat each other on
Social Media. The movement I’m involved with and committed to, www.vetsmarchonamerica.com, is all about
exactly what this Article embodies. Veterans need to be rowing the boat in the
same direction. If we fail at this task, we will be abandoning all future
generations of Veterans. I took the liberty of doing a little editing of this
Article because some of it was simply too offensive for my FB page, but I think
you’ll get the message.
“The only people who understand veterans are other veterans,
and they all hate each other.”
themselves at the rate of 22 every day, and what does the veteran community do
about it? Encourage more of it.
Cannibalization My dad, a retired Army Sergeant Major, likes to tell an
old-school (AKA sexist) joke: “The only people who understand women are other
women. And they all hate each other.” I’ve probably heard that and his other
four jokes a hundred times and they weren’t even funny the first time. But what
happens if we change a word in that “joke?” Let’s swap out “women” for
“The only people who
understand veterans are other veterans. And they all hate each other.” Is that
statement true? Of course not, but you wouldn’t know it from some of the things
going up on social networking sites recently. Vets are the only people who
understand other vets, and yet, military-focused communities online can be
To begin with, the
pages of online veterans’ blogs and websites are filled with hateful, divisive
commentary denigrating the ‘other’ among the services and occupational specialties.
There is of course light-hearted banter and competition among branches and
services, as well as the usual gallows/barracks/locker room humor that is
tacitly accepted as part of military culture. But vile insults and ad
hominem attacks, even rape threats, are so prevalent that
it makes sense that veterans can be negatively impacted by
When the online
dogpile starts, vets seeking a connection with other vets online are either
pulled into the fray by defending themselves or choose to lash out at others,
or don’t join the conversation at all because they’re turned off by it.
Many probably don’t
feel comfortable sharing their experiences because they are “just” Air Force,
or supply, or “never left the wire,” or God forbid they are a woman. There is a
pervasive sense that POGs, Fobbits, and REMFs need not weigh in because they
can’t possibly understand what it’s like to really know the
struggle. That cuts off a primary (and for some, only) support network for
veterans: other veterans.
We veterans make up a
small percentage of the U.S. population. Our experiences, though varied based
on factors such as branch, MOS, and deployment history, set us apart from
civilians. Regardless of motivations to join the military, when we raise our
right hand and don the uniform, we all agreed to kill and if necessary die for
our country. And when the time comes to make good on that promise, it really
comes down to dying and killing for the service member in the foxhole with us,
regardless of any other factors than that we are on the same team.
So why do we not take
that sense of camaraderie and esprit de corps home with us? Why do we have to
constantly be on guard, bracing to defend ourselves against our own kind? Or
beating them to the punch by putting them down and making them feel unworthy to
be a member of our sacred community? Since when does “pride” come at the
expense of other veterans’ dignity? Aren’t we supposed to be in this together? Why
are veterans cannibalizing each other online?
There are real
veterans—real people—with real feelings on the receiving end of every comment
we make. We tell each other to man up, or not to be ‘butt-hurt’ by rude remarks.
But what if the person on the other side of the country to whom that admonition
is directed has entered the conversation, desperate for a connection with the
only people he feels can empathize with his experiences? And he just needs
validation that we are there for each other and that we’ve got each
So yes, we veterans
are a small portion of the US population. But the line that separates us from
civilians has NOTHING on the lines that divide us amongst ourselves. These
divisions are exacerbated by our own behavior. And then we goad and shame other
veterans, shifting the blame to the targets to absolve ourselves of any blame
that could come from the harassment. We need to do better.
Would it help if we
defined the specific problem? The problem is that veterans who can’t find a
safe outlet for their anxieties and concerns, even among their peers, are choosing
to end their lives. THAT is the problem. And we should do ourselves
as a community a favor and step back, reach down deep, and come up with some
Yes, we have a
reputation as tough warriors who can’t be bogged down by feelings. But
that is how we handle our enemies. Our brothers and sisters in arms deserve
better. They deserve the understanding that can only come from those of us who
have experienced what they have, or at least have the frame of reference to do
22toZero… Helpful or Hurtful? Are we veterans hypocrites of the highest order, to a deadly
fault? How many of us have lamented the daily loss of 22 of our comrades to
suicide, while at the same time attacking, belittling, ridiculing, or taunting
other veterans on social media? Veterans are ruthless when there is blood in
the digital waters.
However, as soon as a
veteran ends his or her life, a strange phenomenon occurs. The rest of the
veteran community beatifies the victim. We act as though it was a preventable
tragedy “…if only this guy had reached out and asked for help!”
Where were we and how
were we treating these victims in the months, or even hours before their deaths?
I wonder how many veterans have killed themselves after being driven, or even explicitly
invited to do so on social media.
There was a moment of
reflection recently when photos of Air Force
Captain Jamie Brunette began to circulate on the internet. The
photo depicted a vibrant beautiful young officer who did not represent a person
one might imagine would end her life.
Some are upset that
there is more focus on her than on others who have lost their internal battles
and have ended their lives. The truth is, every veteran suicide is tragic. But
here is an actual comment by someone on a story about Capt. Brunette:
Chances are the
commenter didn’t know Cpt. Brunette, and it appears no one knew her struggles. Yet
people still feel comfortable belittling her service and speculating negatively
about her experiences downrange. I wonder how many of the people who saw the
meme about Cpt. Brunette and thought nothing about it were outraged over a VA
supervisor’s mocking of service members’ struggles. Are they not equally
In short, we need to
realize that we all experience trauma in different ways. What might seem like a
minor occurrence to one service member, might in the context of someone else’s
life be devastating. And, what leads people to commit suicide is likely a
combination of stressors, both service-connected, and in one’s personal life. We
just need to respect and care for each other, with the empathy only we can
provide as fellow veterans. After all, if we don’t support each other, no one
Instead of Holding Out a Hand It gets worse; far too often veterans go from “unsympathetic” or
“offensive” to downright hostile. All too often, online discussions between,
among, and about veterans take a truly nasty turn. Rape “jokes”, death threats,
and suggestions that veterans kill themselves often occur with no provocation
at all. It really boggles the mind: with 22 a day already committing
suicide, should the veteran community really be encouraging more of it?
This type of behavior
is widespread. Right here in Havok Journal I’ve seen veterans wishing violence
on other veterans and encouraging them to commit suicide. One individual read
Scott Faith’s wildly popular “5 Things Veterans
Know That the Rest of America Doesn’t” and said he wanted to “set
the authors on fire” because he disagreed with what Scott had written. Another
cheery veteran invited Leonard Benton to “wash his mouth out with buckshot”
over an article he wrote about Chris Kyle.
On many, many other
pages I’ve seen many, many other invitations ranging from “suck start an M4” to
“you should kill yourself” to “I hope you die.” That doesn’t even count the
kind of racist and sexist comments that people feel comfortable making from
behind the relative safety and semi-anonymity of their keyboards. Instead of
holding out a helping hand, many times it seems that we’re instead handing our
fellow veterans a rope to hang themselves, with the knot already tied. Is this
really how the veteran community engages in meaningful discussion? Is this how
we support each other?
Non-veterans are watching,
too. Since so few Americans serve, the only way many Americans will ever “meet”
a veteran is online, and the impression that they get of the way veterans
interact with each other is going to be a lasting one. Do we want the average
American thinking that it’s OK to say the kinds of things to veterans that we
say to each other? Or that veterans hate everyone and everything, including
each other? I don’t.
As a veteran
community, in the end, nobody understands us like we understand us. No one can help
us the way we can help ourselves. And no one can ever be as
cruel to us as we are to each other. We need to do better. #22toZero.
This article first
appeared in The Havok Journal on 14MAR15.
- An experienced-based look at the
largest Health system in the Country.
is a well-established fact that, for the past fifty years, the U.S. Department
of Veterans Affairs has been in a downward spiral with no end in sight. Veterans,
Veterans’ Families, VA Employees, and most VA Management will back this claim
with their own personal horror stories. Since the 1960’s this Government
Department has been layered with so many levels of bureaucracy that it is
sinking under its own weight. A thorough study of the current Organizational
Documentation for this Department  will demonstrate that, over these years, there
have been way too many “fingers in the
pie”. This PDF Document is 451 pages long which illustrates that there are “too many cooks in the kitchen”. This has
led to an overabundance of non-essential sub-departments and programs that do
absolutely nothing for Veterans and their Families. This is also evident when
the Department is viewed from the bottom up. Which has led me to believe it is
time to “throw the baby out with the bath
vantage point on this subject is from
the bottom. By that, I mean I see the day-to-day operative results of this
Department on a truly local basis. To arrive at some realistic conclusions
about the operation of this Department, it helps to understand the bureaucratic
structure the Employees and Veterans are asked to work within. There is an old
management style called a “silo” structure. Imagine, if you will, an infinite
number of large grain silos out in the Midwest stretching as far as the eye can
see. These grain silos are located in one State and on three separate farms.
Farm “A” is made up of the Veteran
Health Administration, and has 50% of the silos; Farm “B” is made up of the Veteran Benefit Administration, and has 35%
of the silos; and, Farm “C” is made
up of the National Cemetery Administration with the remaining 15% of the silos.
If you take each Farm, by itself, you could easily form three separate
Government Departments (Again, just have a look at their “Org. Charts”.). These silos are so well insulated that they don’t/won’t/can’t
communicate with each other.
Farm that is of the greatest concern to me is Farm “A”; the Veterans Health Administration...
Fig. #1:This chart is six years old. There are
newer changes/additions. 
understand that each, and every, little “block”,
in the chart above,has its own organizational flow chart that is just as
complex. Too many people get the words complicated and complex confused. This organization
and all its sub-organizations are not complicated; they are complex. It has
been my experience that when you have an organization as complex as this, you lose
the ability to be transparent and accountable. The “silo” structure further insulates management and employees in
their own “kingdoms”, which they in
turn guard with their lives. This gives unscrupulous managers the opportunity
to game the system, and run their departments as a Dictator would run a third
world Country. This “benefit” has not
been lost on many of those climbing the ladder of success within the VA system.
Certainly, there are those who take advantage more than others do, but this “silo” structure breeds the culture that
Veterans come up against every day in their dealings with the Veterans Health system.
And, we Veterans are not happy!
experiences I have had at the local level, a small backwater VA Medical Center
in Long Island, NY, have made it very clear that my claims of mismanagement,
corruption, intimidation, fraud, embezzlement, indifference, and disrespect for
Veterans are all well founded. Even at this local level, the “silo” structure is evident and in play.
Someone at the top of the food chain has created this structure, and, thus, allowed
this culture to exist. Now, it is time for them to go, and total redesign the
way our Government views and treats its Military Veterans. If the Government
can’t, or won’t, do it, then it is time the Citizens of this Nation to step up
and take over.
A LITTLE REVOLUTION NEVER HURT ANYBODY!
full PDF document, U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs, 2016
1)contamination of the water supply from Northport Dump plume2)enhanced VERA /
Medical to Nursing Home -
illegal manipulation of funding3)Medical unit 33 /
reallocation of assets & Personnel -
avoids reporting4)Mold infestation - no remediation possible in 90-y/o
buildings5)EEOC actions - employee intimidation6)OSC complaints - employee & patient records illegally breached7)Dept. Chiefs who left
under pressure - harassment 8)Dept. Chiefs who know
nothing about their job - +
no-show jobs9)Dept. Chiefs who slid
under the radar - protected by
Regional and/or National10) Management still under investigation - ethics & criminal
1.VA Town Hall Meeting by
Vinnie three Fingers - no new money allocated to VAMC Northport - but, they
have a plan to fix the infrastructure by hiring Corps. of Engineers and outside
contractors (but, they aren’t getting any money! Whaaat??). 2.Chief of Extended Care
& Rehabilitation - doesn’t know the job - hasn’t seen any patients in 16
yrs. as a Doctor!? 3.Patient mortality
rates are climbing - due in part to the “nursing home shuffle” to generate
enhanced VERA payments from the Feds. VISN 2 actively trying to cover up this
VERA fraud. 4.Medical Unit 33,
Bldg. 200 - personnel and assets being reassigned/reallocated in an attempt to
shutter the unit due to lack of Patients (ref. “nursing home shuffle”). 5.Vinnie Three Fingers
trying to push a 15% across the board Staffing cut - plans to not hire for positions
vacated by movement and/or retirement. 6.New Director coming from Albany - known for “putting
out fires” (the VA way?). Thomasen & Kaufman were interviewed for Director!
= VeteransEquitable Resource Allocation; multi-level
reimbursement schedule for just about all the activities surrounding a VA
Medical Center’s daily/annual operation. This system lends itself to easy
manipulation for the sole purpose of bilking the Fed. Gov. of more than
Town Hall Meetings = Congressionally
mandated public meetings aimed at achieving transparency from all major VA
VISN = Veterans
Integrated Service Network - These are the “Regional” Offices that
liaison between the local VA Facilities and Washington.
Dated photo circa 1980 - It is now become a toxic waste dump
I would like to hear from VA
Employees and Veterans about conditions at the VA Medical Center in Northport,
NY. There are situations occurring at this Facility that are very detrimental
to the health and welfare of both the Employees and the Veteran Patients. Only
a few of the problems at this Hospital have been openly reported. My aim is to
expose the corruption, fraud, contempt, disrespect, intimidation, and rule of
fear inside the daily operations of this Medical Center.
There are actions by the Management of this Facility that most
likely cross the line on criminality and definitely cross the lines of expected
moral ethics. When I say “Management”, I am talking about a long line of
Directors, Associate Directors, Chiefs of Staff, and Department Chiefs.
Decades ago, it became apparent to the aforementioned that the
VA structure lent itself to being manipulated and taken advantage of. That
structure has not changed, so the culture of corruption, fraud, contempt, disrespect,
intimidation, and rule of fear has been left to fester and grow at the hands on
unscrupulous, opportunistic, greedy, power hungry individuals.
Somehow, over the years, Congress and the Federal Employees Union
has seen fit to make it extremely difficult to fire any of these individuals.
If any of these misanthropes were conducting their business in the Private
Sector, they would all be wearing orange jumpsuits.
It is time to call these people out and place them under public
scrutiny for their mistreatment of our Nation’s Veterans. Give me facts and
figures; your names will not be used; and, I will personally blow these criminals
out of the water! I hope to hear from a lot of you very soon.
A few ways to contact me:
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information, so we can talk offline.
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6107 - leave your name and number if I
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